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Welcome to 2012

Our first Episode of 2012 provides an opportunity to look at the Formula One season ahead - at the way the teams are adapting to the new technical regulations, at the new driver line-ups and at changes to the Sporting Rules.  We'll endeavour to answer all your questions and more - and we will be doing so with the invaluable input of Craig Scarborough, one of F1's leading technical analysts.  No stranger to The Flying Lap, Craig's highly-acclaimed website, http://ScarbsF1.wordpress.com, has become a focal point for both F1 team people and fans alike.   Episode 50, just short of our first anniversary, also marks another first for The Flying Lap:  we will be airing live, on-location, from South America.   

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SHOW NOTES ANSWERED QUESTIONS
Chris near 10 mins from Brands | @chris_chalmers

Do you think the Mclaren u side-pod concept can be exploited further and can you see other teams adopting something similar?

Jesus from Valencia

Question to Scarbs. Any information about a team using graphene in the new car?

Jono Kimber - Shrewsbury UK

The new rule about backmarkers unlapping themselves states that cars must remain on the racing line whilst lapped cars overtake. Does this mean possible penalties and resultant controversy for cars weaving to keep heat in their tyres?

Santino Sirignano Harrogate England | @http://twitter.com/#!/tino_santino

Do you have any insight into whats going on at Williams with the second driver? particularly Barrichello, most want him to stay, its agonising for him and us waiting!!

Ashley, Hertfordshire | @PurplesectorF1

The new safety car rules… Don’t understand why lapped cars should be waived around to get a lap back. Why dont they just drop to the back of the queue? Would avoid having to wait for them to do a whole lap – increasing the time of the safety car period?

Dave in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma | @DaveinOkla

Just what does requiring a driver to bring his own sponsorship money to a team say about the team itself?
I’m a believer the team should pay for the best drivers, not take the driver that can bring the most money.

Maybe in a team like HRT it’s OK to do that but should teams like Williams just fold up shop if they can not secure there own sponsors?

Jack Leslie | @JackLeslieF1

Which driver are you all most shocked at not having a 2012 F1 seat?

Lisa and Gary Tatman USA

Hello Peter, Hope all at TFL had a wonderful new year, what do you think of Nicky Lauda’s comments on DRS?

Raymond in Singapore | @Raymondu999

Hi Craig, what do you think will happen in terms of the competitive order? Who will win/lose the most out of the new exhaust position, and does this mean we’ll see cars with a bit more slow speed oversteer characteristics?

Michael, USA a ok

TC hmmmm. Mclaren, lotus renault? fan of Williams and British drives.

Ellice (London) | @F1isP1

Where do you see the biggest challenge or oppoertunity for improvement in the design concepts for 2012? To work better with Pirelli’s characteristics from 2011 or removal of blown diffusers?

Gabriella in Seattle

Hi Craig, we often see words such as blistering, graining, wear and degradation thrown around. What some people don’tget is that they are different things. Could you maybe clarify what each is?

How do you think tyre life, in terms of those 4 buzzwords, will change in 2012 now that the EBD is gone?

Raymond in Singapore | @Raymondu999

Hi Craig, do you think we will still see V-noses in 2012?

What 2011 innovation do you think will be copied in more widespread fashion in 2012? McLaren/STR sidepods? Williams gearbox?

Stephen Armsworth | @JB_LH_fan

This is a question for both of you. If you had to pick one midfield team to keep your eye on for possible higher points finishes, who would you choose? My choice would be Force India.

Mikel, Spain

Do you see the F1 as the main source of hybrid/electrical technology or are endurance series cars (LMPs particularly) more appropiate for that job?

Nikola, Serbia | @F1_Serbia

How will affected new nose design on the the drive and aerodynamics of car?

Andreas from Cyprus

To scarbs: Is a front wing more draggy when closer to the road or less draggy???

Chris in Sheffield

With the change in overtaking regs, what happens at a circuit like Canada which is narrow and has left turns followed by rights? Where does the driver have to leave a gap if he’s made a defensive move? Folk try both the inside and outside into the hairpin!

Forza

Hi Scarbs. What could the agressive cooling radiators postion (BT46 like) bring to aerodynamics and CofG of the 2012 car? I’m also interested in the idea that some teams could use front/rear linked suspension.

Michael, USA a ok

Rules rules rules, teams need to be different, how they see their solution to the problem…for speed, drafting, and the cost. The other way is Indycar, one car for all with the same aero and next year different engines. The teams should be different. thanks.

f1talks, Poland | @f1talks

Using helium in wheel guns is banned next year. Do you have any knowledge what teams can use instead?

Gary Nichol, Glasgow

Hi Peter,

Not that I don’t think Frank is dedicated and passionte about his job, but do you think it is time for Frank to hand over to a Team Principal who is more hands on, Kolles/ Gerhard Berger for example? Problem is regarding Frank he doesn’t go to every race, therefore he cannot see fully what goes on, perhaps causing Williams problems?

Thanks

Josh in Leeds

Hi,

Have the weight distribution rules been changed for 2012?

Ernie

Of the regulation changes announced, which regulation would you most like to see that is not listed or needed

Ernie

What rule change do you believe would best level the playing field?

Ernie

o you believe the FIA has done a good job to make rules less ambiguous and open to interpretation?

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @Funkmastabuzz

Is there a show next week??

Lisa and Gary Tatman USA

Craig, how do the teams use this exhaust air without causing damage to carbon parts w/ the extreme temps?

Michael McLaren

Peter,

Your point of the lack of understanding how best to deploy wings and aero in 1968, in light of aero development now, made me think of the deadly consequences back then if you got it wrong (i.e. Bruce McLaren and the M8D) when they got the designs or missed details. Fast-wind to 2011 with off-throttle blowing of hot gasses onto the floor, and risking fires, it seemed like the dangerous history of aero development was repeating itself.

Ernie

Do you ever see F1 move back towards mechanical grip and away from aero? How might this impact safety and the “green” iniative?

Teddy Avila, Porter Ranch Ca.

Scarbs, Can you explain the importance of the engine cover hole (Red Bulls was pretty pronounced than others). and is that another form of aero device used for advantage

mad79-romania

is it possible for the teams to use 2 exausts,in diferent parts of the yellow box?

Ernie

Would it make more sense from an environmental point of view, to have more races in Europe or have a schedule that follows a “round the world” approach as opposed to traveling back and forth (and going to markets that may not appreciate F1 as much)

Andreas from Cyprus

Can they actually use the way Dyson vacuum cleaners work to get the air out of the sidepods more efficiently thus decreasing the size of the sidepod exits and improving aerodynamics?

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @Funkmastabuzz

Do you or Craig think their will be any radical car designs this year even with the small reg changes

Ernie

Do either of you agree that in-season testing should be allowed, Why or Why not?

Ernie

Scarbs depicted a solution to detect front wing movement, any chance the FIA might show interest?

Chris in Sheffield

In the tech regs, there’s an explicit mention that only tyre warmers can warm the tyres. Is this to do with the rumoured warming of tyres with the exhaust by Red Bull?

Paul Davis, Cranfield

Didn’t the original Merc KERS involve Zytek, I think they made the motor (Now Merc do those themselves). Zytek of course are probably the market leader in battery KERS for motorsport, having run such a system at Le Mans back in 1997.

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @Funkmastabuzz

Whos going to get the upper hand out of the Mclaren drivers…..And do you think that Mclaren have “relaxed” their team atmosphere in the light of Red Bulls “party” style.

PJ Tierney | @PJ_Tierney

Mercedes have mentioned that they won’t make the first test. Could it be that they won’t have their chassis crash test approved in time, or is it simply that they prefer to do simulation work?

Lisa and Gary Tatman USA

Peter, couldn’t agree more, Ruebens is one of the most talented drivers and most charismatic F1 drivers ever! What a beautiful way to allow fans to show their support and admiration to him over his long career!

Marc Schreiber

Hey guys! Not sure if it has been covered yet, just curious what you think about Ferrari’s technical restructure and if you would bet on them actually making a big step in downforce in 2012. Thanks for the consideration!

Owen, Oxfordshire

Sorry I missed the first half hour so you may have covered this but do you reckon we will see any flames from the new engines. Looking at other turbo series it seems common but the FIA may not want any flames because it doesn’t look very “green”.

Anders, Sweden | @AndersF1

Will The Flying Lap be reporting “on site” from the winter tests?

Ellice (London) | @F1isP1

With the teams tweaking their fuel loads to optimise their strategy over a race distance, this leads to periods of fuel saving. Surely the pinnacle fo motorsport should be a race from start to finish? Why don’t the FIA mandate the fuel load that must be carried at the start of the race?

Kate UK | @Kateafan

Hi Peter and Craig, Apparently RBR returned Mark Webber’s start system to the 2010 spec for Japan GP and onwards last year, resulting in only 1 loss off the start until the end of the season compared to the poor starts earlier. Any idea what the changes were?

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @Funkmastabuzz

Any news on Rubens and his future in F1

Teddy Avila, Porter Ranch Ca.

Will we see USGP in the new future on the grid?

Lisa and Gary Tatman USA

Hi Peter, what’s your thoughts about DRS in respect to Nicki Lauda’s trashing of the DRS and how it’s unfair to leading drivers!

Teddy Avila, Porter Ranch Ca.

Great 1st season and thank you. Before McLaren’s unveiling on Febuary 1st, do you think the MP4-27 will be an evolution of the MP4-26?

brett foster | @brettfosterf1

With the amount of very good drivers that cannot find a race seat, do you think there is a gap in the market for another high level race series that can match the technical level of F1??

Kate UK | @Kateafan

Hi again! Sorry but I’ve never properly understood weight distribution rule changes but can there ever be a ruling that means driver weight is not an issue and sees the end to ‘jockey’ height or ‘malnourished’ looking drivers? (Waterlogged rugby pitches have allowed me to enjoy the show live this week).

Khan_F1 / Denver, CO | @http://twitter.com/#!/Khan_F1

My question goes for Craig: I read on your website about the possible reasons behind FIA’s clarification on the use of clutch and 1st gear. Were teams implementing some electronic assisted launch control with these paremeters? Do you suspect on any team in particular towards which this clarifications might be directed?

Thanks a lot for your work, Mr. Windsor and Scarborough; a pleasure as always watching TheFlyingLap.

Leonardo Felix | @TazioAutosport

The new sporting regulation of F1 provides that lapped cars can overtake the leaders during SC periods. In the text, the FIA describes that “This will only apply to cars that were lapped at the time they crossed the Line at the end of the lap during which they crossed the first Safety Car line for the second time after the safety car was deployed”. Can you clarify the meaning of that specific part of the rule?

Owen, Oxfordshire

How does HERS work?

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @Funkmastabuzz

wouldnt limiting fuel and turbo use and removing DRS be better in 2014???

Paul, Cranfield

I take it we’ll be seeing turbo compounding in 2014?

Williams4Ever, Motor City

Farewell tour is not a good idea – lots of Cricketers have done that, only to distract the team’s attention from task at hand.
If music bands are to go by every Farewell is followed by Reunion tour.
In case of Rubens good reunion would be driving with Michael Schumacher perhaps.

Santino Sirignano Harrogate

Hi Peter, i spoke to you on Twitter and you said you had an email interchange just now? Vettel today said he wants him to stay, can we get a mole to tell us more?

Alex Cooper, Leeds | @ACooperF1

What’s the chance of Embratel becoming Williams’ title sponsor, along with Bruno as the other driver?

Jack Leslie, UK | @JackLeslieF1

On my blog i reported Williams losing the AT&T deal, when i was reading some information i saw they have also lost 2 other important sponsors over the past 2 years? What impact would that have on them as a team?

Ellice (London) | @F1isP1

Based on the 2011 Pirelli tyres’ characteristics, what challenges will this present for the design of the 2012 cars?

Dave in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma | @DaveinOkla

I’ve been hearing some teams will not make the first test, with the lack of in season testing how can any team miss a test & what are the implications?
Do they have something they don’t want the other teams to see or are they late in development?

Show notes still have to be added.
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Jonny in Kansas City, Missouri USA | @jonnyvanderpool

Peter, I thought you made a very interesting point about sponsorship money in response to the question posed in this episode. Could you elaborate in a future episode? Do you feel like that is poorly structured system from F1’s stand point (to have the drivers be the face so much more than the teams that we now find they’re the major source of sponsor money) or is it healthy for the sport? I thought it a very interesting topic.

glenn / new york city

hey scarbs/peter pirelli once spoke about larger wheels, since those comments nothing has been said is that still in the pipeline??

glenn / new york city

will we see you back in SPEED? you were awesome on the pre-show and on-track.

Alex

Skype is very badly coded, it’ll make any laptop go hot when you video call, unfortunately. The only thing you can do is to angle the computer so the fan exhausts arn’t blocked.

Peter Chipstead, Surrey

Cool blown laptops??? Whatever next? ;)
Thanks for a great show guys.

Paul, Cranfield

Hi Brett, that was a role that IndyCar, F2 and F5000 fulfilled but now F1 is the only open-ish single seater formula, the others all being a spec’ series funded almost entirely by pay drivers or backed drivers with little to no technical innovation. A sad situation really. Endurance racing gets excellent crowds at the circuit (in the UK and US anyway), the lack of TV audience and public perception is due to poor and incorrectly conceived marketing.

brett foster, Southend | @brettfosterf1

@paul, as much as I love the GT1 and LeMans, I was talking about more of a single seater series. I don’t think Endurance gets as many viewers and the high level single seaters and money raised from viewers/fans etc will fund the tech. just a thought.

Michael McLaren

Thanks Peter and Scarbs. Most appreciated.

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

Well done TFL!!! Scarbs is one of my favorite guests.THANKS!!!

Paul, Cranfield

@Danny – LMP1, always has been because they embrace different concepts and don’t ban innovations! This will become the case even more when LMP1 moves to an energy consumption formula in 2014.

Danny, Martigny (Switzerland)

Nice to be back on track. Happy racing new year to everybody.

In 2012 the car presentation I’m waiting the most is the new Toyota LMP1 hybrid and then only the new 2012 F-1. What would be the most technical formulae in 2014 : F-1 or LMP ?

Ernie

Thanks for taking my question today on the show. Great show again, way to kick off 2012

Paul, Cranfield

I am indeed at Cranfield University. :-) Home to where all the UK based F1 team crash testing is done.

Alex

No good sponsors, no money to build a great car. No great car, no good sponsors.

Evil circle, where Williams is stuck right in the middle and cant get out.

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

I agree Alex but Id have to say williams didnt do much for BAR either lol

Alex

It’s the teams own fault that they haven’t been able to follow the ‘pace’ of the other more successful teams. With this I mean it’s extremely conservative to employ drivers which should have quit F1 years ago.

I don’t think Williams benefitted much from BAR in 2011.

Paul Davis, Cranfield

@Brett Foster
“do you think there is a gap in the market for another high level race series that can match the technical level of F1??”
There is, it’s called the World Endurance Championship, including Le Mans.

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

I think DLR and BAR still have something to offer their respective teams…..not sure I can say that about the other guys u mention

Alex

Forgot about him…

The list is far too long.

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

Alex what about MSC???lol

Alex

F1 has way too many old drivers on the grid at the moment. Kick the old guys out and get some fresh blood in. By that I mean MAS, BAR, HEI, DLR, TRU and maybe even WEB.

Dave in Broken Arrow, Oklahoma | @DaveinOkla

I was a mechanic at a car dealership & the last thing I wanted to do when I got home was work on my car.

Peter from Chipstead, Surrey

Rubens ‘farewell tour’ in 2012 is a fantastic idea. Having done that, he’ll probably want to race in 2013 as well!

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

Everyone loves Rubens and I for one will love to see him do what you said Peter

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

Id like to thank TFL for my Globe trainers I won for question of the week. They came awhile back but I missed the last show, so THANKYOU!!!

Tom

Yaaaaaaaay!

Funkmastabuzz,Bristol | @funkmastabuzz

Hey guys…..Happy New Year

Anders , Sweden | @Andersf1

Great to have The Flying Lap back!



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